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Do you have reasonable CGI access at your ISP, Kim? If so, hypermail is a TERRIFIC way to archive mailing lists. It sorts by date or subject, at the user's request. We could just keep the entire archive at Looper's Delight. Speaking of which, is Kim or somebody keeping every post we receive? Finally... we should be able to include at least samples of various profesional artists' works at a web site under the fair use provisions of copyright law. Of course, it'd be nice to ask permission first, but in my experience, musicians are far nicer and friendlier than the record companies that own the actual rights. If I get the chance, I'll try to get some samples of my favorite artists digitized. This leads to another potential problem for Looper's Delight, though... disk space. How are the facilities, Kim? -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. -Charles Fort dstagner@icarus.net