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Wow, it's hard to add anything to what Kim said! He hit on just about all the major points for beating hum. I'll add one he overlooked, and emphasize a few I think are particularly important... First, you didn't say what sort of instrument/pickups you use. A guitar with single coil pickups? Start right there, and go to stacked humbuckers. They don't sound as good as real single coils, but they're quiet. This was one of the first changes I made when I started with looping. I got a set of Carvin stacked humbuckers for my Strat and they worked wonders. While you're at it, make sure your guitar is WELL shielded and uses high-quality shielded wire internally. Lots of guitars are noisy even with humbuckers. I'll repeat Kims admonition to use high-quality shielded cable and plugs. Use XLR balanced connectors whenever possible... their whole purpose is hum rejection, and they do it very well. And avoid flourescent lights whenever possible. And computer monitors. Cross audio cables perpendicular to power lines. Make sure your rack stuff isn't ground-looping through the rack or physical contact. This reminds me of a story... a few years ago, I saw Steve Tibbetts (a very subtle looper in his own right) on tour. Something in his electric guitar system hummed severely, which pretty much confined him to acoustic guitar (looping hum SUCKS). At one point during the concert, he made a comment about a "ghost in the machine". Then, about 30 seconds into the next song, one of the PA speakers tipped forward and fell off the stage, with a resounding thud. Luckily, no one was hurt. Much to Steve Tibbetts and Marc Andersen's credit, they kept on playing without breaking stride. :} Ghost in the machine indeed! -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. -Charles Fort dstagner@icarus.net