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>I now only play in RF's new standard tuning for guitar. I am ashamed to ask in this club. I almost participated on a course, but I cannot learn such way. So please, tell me the RF tuning. Thanks. >I also make extensive use of various pitch devices so >I can access both very high and very low tones. Yes, me too. Sad that not even the PCM80 is clean when it comes to shift a frequency mix (several notes, chords). My PARADIS has two frets more on the E string, so I have low D constantly without any change in fingering (exept to remember to press E) These days I thought about tuning (Not an issue for me so far) and wished deeply a tuning with equal distance between strings so any fingering can be applied anywere. I tuned B and high E string a half tone up. It is marvelous somehow, much easier for the brain. But then again some chords become nightmares. Maybe its not me to develop such stuff. I always remember Rainer Franzmann. He was an architect, in love with guitar. He thought about the instrument in a free way I never saw elswhere. He visited me in Biel in '91 with a crazy big proposual to create the perfect guitar with polyphonic stuff and lots of controlers all over the instrument - a lot of genious ideas and a lot of far off dreams about electronics. He showed a prototype of a guitar with a "tremolo" that detuned harmonically and was operated from the neck. Incredibly intuitive to use! Ljubo built such in his guitar, the idea lives. It also had an elbow controller, a very intuitive expression way - and 8 strings. He said that he does not like 6 string tuning because fingering is to hard and unequal. This seamed very logic to me. He called his tuning "symetric" and it was E G# c e G# c1 e1 g#1. I met him again in Frankfurt with a bunch of guitar creaters (Rolf, Ljubo) and he used to spread an incredible creative, alive energy. I was busy with projects I thought were a little closer to what clients could understand and I did not understand why he was in a hurry so much, until I heard that he had died, about a year after. Then I remembered the dark shades under his eyes. Death must be harder when the projects are on paper only, everbody calling it genious, but nobody executing it. I do not know where his prototypes went, and all the nice drawings (architect!). If anyone heard about this or has a way to find something - he lived in Freiburg. I have a 13 pages project of his in hands. Should I publish it? Am I alowed to do so? Well, anyway, its in german and I have no scanner, so it would be hard work... Matthias