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>Eric Cook hit upon some really IMPORTANT points. ...and Dave hits again: >And Eric's observation that looping unsynced can cause "truly bizarre >counterrhythms" strange "accidental" harmonies really rings true to me >personally. please, LET something EXCITING and UNEXPECTED happen! forget >PLANNING your loops (unless it's appropriate). let MUSIC occur....... Sure, my stile pretty much, too, as you know, and I tend to get emotioned and off with you... But some want to play Salsa... and I love Salsa, too... would be a pitty to see them unsubscribe because of us crazy ones. There is a style for every ambient (ambient is only for certain ambients! ;-) ) and a way to applicate loops... And, come on, at least 90% of the world population mostly wants to dance to precise, traditional (synced!) rhythms! And its great! Did you hear a percussionist fill a loop with a traditional rhythm, using all of his gear? Thats a lot of power! >I spent so much time trying to be a Todd Rundgren, making the perfect 3 >minute song, overdubbed to perfection. This is the WRONG route! > >All you get is sterility, songs worked to death. Even the Neil Schon >stories smack of this obsession. No need. You mean, there is no way to create perfect songs on loops without getting sterile? This is serious! I could not do it, but... noone? HELP, someone! >Clear the mind, open the mind...allow MUSIC to appear. Nothing too >strange, >nothing is impossible. The best loops are those that just come...if you >WORK at it...it probably will not be so good. Absolutely, you can cook like that, even design a machine... hm... lets not get fanatic... >Matthias- you at least know what I am speaking of! Aem...<blush>... just me? Sorry I do not want to break you on your trip, its a very good one! And it might end up influencing all kind of music! >Comments please! Matthias