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It's probably the same problem. Its the temperature inside that ic that really matters, the outside temperature may not be enough to cool it down. Clipping that pin fixes it. And remember, the ventilation you experience standing next to the rack may not be the same ventilation experienced inside the devices. A well placed fan is never a bad idea with music gear in the great outdoors. Sunshine on black metal can transfer a lot of heat inside those guys. A lot of parts might not fail immediately, but just die a slow steady death in the heat. kim At 4:51 PM -0400 6/3/97, David Kirkdorffer wrote: >No -- I've not doen the mod to clip the little pin. I don't have the >tools at home and I've just gotten by w/out the UNDO feature after the >first 30 minutes when things get warm. > >However, it couldn't have been more than 55 degrees out with a strong >breeze going. _Plenty_ of ventalation..... I was quite surprized it >did what it did from pressing the OVERDUB button , as I've NEVER >experienced that in the almost year I've been a happy little looper. > >I thought it may have been something else to do with the dampness of the >evening... > >David > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 1997 1:10 PM >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: Re: Echoplex and The Outdoors >> >>>Hello folks. >>>Friday I was playing an outdoor show in Boston. Temperature in the high >>>50's / low 60's. Coolish. Maybe a little humidity? Good breeze going. >>> i have 107 seconds om memory. I was merrily looping and I hit the >>>OVERDUB button and the loop craps out a la Thermal Problem & UNDO >>>probem. I have left the space above my Obie empty to help w/cooling.... >>>The rest of the evening went great and fun was had by all... >>> >>>Have others experienced this, or am I uniquely gifted? >>> >>>David >> >>Did you do the little mod that is explained on the web site? You need to >>clip a pin off one of the ic's in the plex, and the thermal problems will >>go away. (pin 5, U12) There is even a nice little picture there showing >>how to do it. Newer units should have this done at the factory before >they >>ship. >> >>Sorry, I guess that one was my fault. My punishment is to explain how to >>fix it for the rest of my life...:-) >> >>kim >> >>______________________________________________________________________ >>Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >>kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >>http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com