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1) Just as visual art is not judged by the brushes used to create it, music should not be judged by the physical object from which it eminiates. 2) I think that the subject of context has gone largely undiscussed in this conversation. What makes a musician great - whether it be a guitarist, singer, matchbook player, whatever - is a communicated understanding of context. An artist in any medium should possess a historical knowledge of that genre and strive to make a statement within that context. That is why art communicates through time. That is also why a "valid musician" is one who has studied his or her craft well enough to understand the arsenal of techniques at his or her disposal and who combines those with his own sensibilities to create a sound which stands the test of time simply by virtue of making an educated statement. Now, don't assume that the historical context of every genre is extensive. (ie: the age of a medium does not equal its worth) Take, for instance, the DJ. Social changes - in everything from technology to the economy - had created a new voice that was not being expressed... urban, high tech, frustrated, etc. So a new language was created; one which rightfully reflects not only these qualities and more, but one that also re-hashes elements of past music and sound bytes - just the way we all live now (flower-power retro re-hash). This process has happened throughout history. Its just that now we are hearing a message from the last half of the 20th century using the tools we now have available. This filtering of context through contemporary sensibilities gives us the ability to recognize the DJ as being as valid as Ry Cooder as valid as Satie as valid as Bach. The brushes they used may have been different but the context in which each of them contributes is undeniable.