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David Kirkdorffer wrote: > I don't need the standards: chorus, flange, delay, pitch-shift. I'm > looking for DRASTIC effects rendering a guitar very UN-guitar-like. I > have a Vortex already -- now I quest for something more wild. Dave, Look into the Roland GR30 guitar synth. You get completely unguitar-like sounds. It also has a programmable apeggio feature with many different modes. You can set it up so a short loop or segment plays when triggered by a note. It goes well beyond the basic idea of an arpeggio. Motley