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While I am tempted to shell out the big-$$ on an echoplex or jamman, and given the relative scarcity of both, and also given my neophyte status, I am wondering whether a Digitech PDS pedal or something similar might suffice for the moment. I understand these pedals to have the capability of sampling and holding and they can have up to 8 seconds delay - that would be plenty for me at the moment. Do these pedals have any other capabilities that are useful ? Which is the most ideal for the purposes of looping ? thanks for any help, Darcy Clark +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Materials Science and Engineering Department University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI, 48109-2136 USA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Room 2130, Dow Building Phone (313) 764 3377 Fax (313) 763 4788 E-mail darcyc@engin.umich.edu http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/mse250 http://msewww.engin.umich.edu/people/darcyc/ http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++