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At 8:11 AM -0500 10/27/97, Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: ><<I think most people who want to do nutty midi tricks like this just use >Opcode's Max. ... >advantage of max is you program it, so it's uniquely your thing and you >don't have to be confined to someone else's ideas, or their need to make a >profit.>> >I've been gazing at Max with interest for years, and am even on the Max >list...but trying to make sense of the hi-level gibberish of all those >MAX-heads has been pretty fatal to my interest, not being a programmer... Actually, most of the real programmers I know couldn't relate to max at all, and hated it. Most of the musicians had no trouble. The graphical approach seems to require a different sort of conceptualization of things than writing C code, and better appeals to creative types in my experience. Don't let the nerdy types fool you.... >I know, all you programmer types think that anyone can get going with >just a >little effort, but I've already wasted WAY too much time trying to get >anything but garbage and tech support frequent flyer miles out of WAY too >many expensive software packages that just weren't plug-and-play enough >for >my math-free liberal arts background. >And staring at a computer screen just isn't my idea of making music, much >as >I love the possibilities, and have been seduced by them (I even dig >manuals, >go figure!). I've got two Macs, a slew of arcane and expensive MIDI >programs >and Digidesign stuff, and am finally realizing that I'm just a hardware, >dedicated-box, real-time, stomp-on-it kinda guy..... >Thanks for the tip, tho! >dpc I would say, just try it. I find max to be perfect for the more real time stuff. I can quickly make it do exactly what I want, rather than spending time trying to dicipher a poorly documented function in some other device to force it to my needs. And I can put big ol sliders and knobs on the screen to control things the way I want to, and activate them with the mouse or some other external controller. I don't use it much, but it's real handy when I need it. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com