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>one of the "charms" of the looping technique is to figure out how to make >that clunker sound like it was meant to be there. > >does anyone else have any suggestions? I'm actively involved in a non-profit organization--Music for People--that subscribes to the philosophy that there are no wrong notes. Sometimes it's a great exercise to play something as "wrong" as you can. One view is that all music consists of cycles of tension and release, and wrong notes can be a great source of tension. (Of course, once the clunker is in the loop, I'll admit it can be challenging to get to the release part, unless you have Undo in your looper.) Anyway, if you're interested in a wonderful network of music improvisors that puts on some truly inspiring workshops, I suggest you check out the Music for People home page: http://www.mjb.com/mfp/ -Len Seligman