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At 04:12 PM 11/6/97 +0000, Robert S. Carter wrote: >Basically i'm wondering whether there are any samplers (particularly the >new "phrase" sampler boxes) which can loop on the fly in the style of a >sampling digital delay (i.e. the JamMan). Sure all samplers loop, but in >my experience (I've got an S-760) there's always a couple button presses >worth of processing to be done after recording before you can play back >the loop, plus you've got to trigger the sample somehow. I'm thinking >about something performance friendly that immediately loops and plays >back the sample. The phrase sampler type boxes generally do allow for fast looping, just like the jamman/echoplex approach where you tap to start/stop and the sample starts looping automatically. The frustrating thing I've seen, at least with the akai stuff like the remix16, is that you can't record and play back at the same time. That limits a lot of performance applications, where you might want to sample a new audio element and add it to the currently playing loop. (overdubbing, inserting, replacing, etc.) On the other hand, those devices usually have built in sequencers which the digital delay type boxes don't have, and polyphonic loops are a given. It's interesting to see how the sampler approach to real-time looping and the digital-delay approach are moving towards each other and adopting each other's features. The devices from the sampler world like the remix16 and others now have the tap-style, easy loop capturing features that delays have long had with the "hold" button, as well as other performace features like real-time reverse, etc. And the loop devices from the digital delay background, like the echoplex, have features like loop triggering with midi, velocity sensitivity, midi sync, sample dump, etc. You can expect the lines to get more blurry.... kim _______________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact Systems Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com