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Stew, what you're talking about is very interesting. I have seen some mindblowing work out of Europe that some friends of mine siphoned. The problem I thought is how can you get it to move to what you want. I mean here you've got all this stuff that's just a wonderful tunnel to travel through and wow look at that spotlight on the wall go and you got great music already with it, but it doesn't change, it's static. Rollercoasters and all. I'm not knocking these people who win real prizes on how to solve such problematic endeavors, but for something to succeed it usually needs application, feedback. And looping might in fact, be a good start, because it enables some repetition, perhaps an easier beginning? If you don't mind talking about it, are you into anything right now? & do you write any of this 3-imaging for your own music? intrigued, Mjh