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What, did someone say something? I went to the doctor the other day and he put me up onto the table and placed his stethescope to my lower back and he said "I would like to hear your bowels" I said "A E I O U". Constant ringing in my ears came from bad karma at Rock concerts in the early 70s. I recall a ZZtop concert where my ears were shocked into the next day. The Stones and Ten Years after were worse. This was back in the days when midrange was king. The sound was so muddled that one could hardly make it out. Saw other groups whose only guitar amplification came from their amps. Absurd hey? Tinnitis is a good thing. It's the best wife filter on the planet. I honestly can't hear about 25% of what is being discussed. High freqs. roll off first. Went to the ear doctor once when I was in my early 30's. He said yup, your about 3db down. Hey, isn't that half power? The only solution I've found is to buy a bigger amp. Can't hear the ringing. As far as proper topics for a loopers page, seems as if we are looping on topics that some loopers don't want to discuss. But, hey as long as we loop on it, it should be okay? Right? Right? ght? ht? t? t? 78~) Regards Juan. <A HREF="mailto:anet@aol.com (John Peters)">(3rd CD project)</A>