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At 02:13 PM 4/13/98 EDT, NEMOGUIT wrote: >who would have thunk that what we do, and that is a question in And of >itself, >is not quite mainstream. do we do music to drink coffee by? or hide me in >a >corner and ill keep it low enough so as not to bother the eaters, would >hate >to ruin someones salad!! i have always wondered, is it the fact that i am >so >simple that i can be quite happy listening to the loops of the birds and >"peepers" and find enjoyment in this. is this simplicity the basis of my >love >of loops? I think we should be careful about assuming that "looping" is an actual genre of music. To me it is more of a technique that could be applied anywhere. (like say, "singing" or "drumming".) What you put into a loop and what you do with the loop will have a lot more to do with the sort of music you end up with, whether it be challenging high-art or danceable party music or bluegrass or whatever, than the loop itself. Certainly, using a real-time looping device will direct you in certain ways, but I imagine that someone like Chet Atkins will end up in a totally different place than someone like Jack Dangers. (both of whom are known to use real-time loopers and still retain their sizable audiences...Chet even won a grammy using his jamman...) *Some people* using real-time loopers are forging into new musical territories and making difficult music that drives people out of coffee shops. I think that has more to do with things like their actual music, their skill as entertainers, their relationship with a given audience, their choice of venue, and the newness/comfort issue than it does with the presence of a looping device somewhere in the process. A looper is just a tool used for particular techniques that you can apply as you like. Whether you succeed or not will have a lot more to do with you and your music than with the tool or the techniques..... kim _______________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-752-9284 Mpact Systems Engineering kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research http://www.chromatic.com