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Dave Trenkel wrote... So, I'm currently listening to what has to be the sickest loop CD I've heard in ages: Tony Conrad's Early Minimalism. 4 discs of overdubbed, looped, atonal violin drones. the piece "Four Violins" was recorded in 1964, and it's 32 minutes of multitracked overdriven harmonics, sharp enough to peel paint at moderate volume. Fantastic stuff! MB: Wow Dave. Pretty tricky of you to take this in another direction. Do you have kids? Can you say redirect? I forget who mentioned it but the Czukay/Walker disc "Clash" is pretty cool. Not my usual listening, but disc 2 is really interesting. Are there any guitarist types doing this sort of thing? In dance clubs? Any suggestions would be most welcome. I also have been listening to the Nels Cline Trio, "Ground" and that's a nice blend of straight ahead free jazz, with a heavy dose of Sonic Youth style noise injection. Nels and Thurston Moore also have a disc out called "The Pillow Wand" which is also interesting for aggressive ambience types. I listen to Terje Rypdal "EOS" (duo with cellist David Darling) at least two times a week... -Miko