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In a message dated 98-06-02 08:55:24 EDT, you write: << For a really classic loop experience try scanning the shortwave band for a numbers station. These are the stations that the various intelligence organisations use to stay in contact with their agents in the field.Irdial discs released a double CD of examples (can't remember their URL offhand, but I'm sure you can find it - there's also a site dedicated to monitoring these stations) >> just a quick note - there is a four cd set called the Conet Project made up of nothing but numbers-stations recordings - it's available from Aquarius Records in San Fran (they are amazing with their mail-order!!) - check them out at http://aquarius.bianca.com./ Or search "shortwave numbers" or "Conet" on the web and find more info. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com