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When my main looper was a Digitech RDS-3600, I used a similar technique. However, instead of a "stack" button, the RDS had a "hold" button. It was very handy to be able to freeze a loop, thaw and change it, and then re-freeze it. You can do the same thing in the "echo" mode on the JamMan by turning the feedback setting from 16 (hold) to 15 or lower (fade). Evolving loops are much more interesting than static loops. Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 12:45 PM Subject: boomerang idea >what i had always thought of as a short-coming of the rang, the way it >attenuates the original loops, the more you stack loops the first ones >diminish in volume until they are gone. last nite i was jammin with a friend >and we both were going through the rang, i put in some chords and a little >bass and a little coloration (accents etc.) and then we played over this >loopage. by keeping the stack button (input) depressed we were able to >make >the loop evolve. the original chords would fade then the bass and so on until >there was an entire new base loop. whenever it got interesting i would let up >on the stack button and play over the new loop till i wanted to change it >again. in all, we went for good while (about 10 mins) with a seamless >continually changeing mass (mess) of sound.