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Does anyone know of an effects device that could do the following: First make a loop, then copy this loop to the unknown effects device. The effects device can modify all sorts of parameters such as EQ, resonance, envelopes etc. You could even copy the same loop again and layer it again with different settings to produce some weird cancellations. Or you could record the same loop to the same device multiple times, muck around with the sound on each, possibly playing midi into the device to modify parameters as the loop repeats, and then mix between the loops, again with whatever control and input you can do. Are any of these features currently available on a device, or is it all in my head? This sig is presented to you by Food Acid 330 Jamie Lack jlack@auran.com