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At 05:53 PM 8/13/98 EDT, you wrote: > >In a message dated 8/13/98 12:48:15 PM, nyfac2@nyfac.com wrote: > >>I have heard that replying to these mass mailings does not get you taken >off >their >>list- in fact, I have been told >>that this only shows them that your account is active, and puts you on >future >spam >>lists. >>Anyone hear the same thing? > > >That's my understanding also- it is better to filter out what you can (I >would >love to be able to filter "Blind Carbon Copy" email (Loopers excepted, of >course)) and simply delete unread what you can't. another course of action, if you are interested in fighting spam, is learning how to read mail headers. The "from" address in spam is always fake (so replying with "remove" is a waste of time, it will just bounce), but you can usually tell from the header the server/ISP where it originated. Then you contact the abuse department at that ISP and forward a copy of the spam, asking them to investigate. They will almost always close the account immediately. (and its such a nice feeling when they write back to let you know and say thanks!) You can also tell from the header which SMTP server the spammer used to send the mail. Usually they route to some unprotected mail server over the internet, and use it without permission to send the spam. If you contact the owner of that server (usually an inexperienced sysadmin) and let them know, they can upgrade the server and set it so spammers can't use it anymore. BTW, this doesn't work for spam sent to a mailing list like this, since the spam header gets stripped out by the mailing list software. The header you see will just show you that it originated at the mailing list account, and won't help you find the spammer at all. There is a lot of info online about this, unfortunately, I don't a a good list of links with me. Well, I guess I have one....Here's a place that's pretty good, and includes some cool online tools for investigating origins of spam mail, and has lots of info on decoding spam headers: http://www.blighty.com/spam/ anyway, have fun. If spam to the list starts becoming a problem, I can restrict it so that only subscribers can post. I didn't want to do that so far, since there are some folks out there who post useful stuff sometimes but aren't on the list anymore. kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 Chromatic Research kflint@chromatic.com http://www.chromatic.com