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In a message dated 98-08-27 00:42:06 EDT, you write: << It seems to me that SOUND is the keyword here. Not just the sound of the instrument but the groove/feel , the spirit. The orginality of your playing. If you sample a couple of bars "Funky Drummer" ,the James Brown tune, you are taking the spirit ,groove and sound of that particular drummer and using it to boost your own thing. This is , in my opinion , a copyright infringement. If you add reverb or chorus to the sample you`re still using HIS thing. >> I have to say that I don't agree with the above definition of copyright infringement. If you were to take "Funky Drummer" and lay death metal guitars, an acid line and hindu chanting samples over it you would be creating a piece that, hopefully, is greater than the some of it's parts. Therefore it is a creative step forward which is what copyright law is supposed to be fostering. But it has been basterdized by greedy buinessmen who are useing the evolution and popularzation of sampling as a way to make some bucks on stuff collecting dust in their backcatalogs. They are the ones who are gonna make the cash if you clear the sample, not the drummer (whose name is Bernard Purty, I belive. It'z an absolute sin that he is not in the rock n' roll hall of fame yet.) It would be beautiful if samplists could simply list their sources. It would generate interest in the originals and stir up some sales. But instead publishers charge absolutly silly amounts of money to clear shit so people have to play hide and seek. This crap is hampering the evolution of music. I suggest you all read Chris Griggs excelent article on Fair Use when I find the damn address for it. Aaron Zilch VicePrezident in charge ov Cerebral Dizcomfort Audio Terrorism Corporation/House ov Scof The Makers ov A:P0D. www.atomick.com