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Since we're speaking of Mister Frank Zappa, I'd like to ask if anyone has heard his Civilization Phase III ? That to me is his best work ever. State of the art musicians, sampling, mixing, and just about everything else. And it's pretty funny to listen to all the "in-betweener"parts of speech. Jeff Collins -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman <sgoodman@earthlight.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 6:54 PM Subject: RE: This Sampling debate >Is it just me, or do not all my posts go to the newsletter anymore? Hmm, >perhaps it's Outlook98.... But I dunno. This particular list has shown >its >quirks... This one I decided to paste the email address in, as the default >one, for Andre, came up. > >andre [mailto:andre@monmouth.com] put forth: > >> And let's all go give Gabriel's "Security" or Zappa's "Jazz from Hell" >> another spin - both are colossally sample dependent - yet >> they each sampled all the sounds ... > >Strange you'd say that. Both those albums' only shared characteristic >involves the Synclavier, whose creators regarded FZ as their Most Feared >Support Call, because when he got in touch something ultra-complex was >afoot. Frank was known in his time as a premier programmer of the >Synclavier, and was quoted in Keyboard magazine (the issue which, I >remember, had a completely different version of Jazz From Hell for the >monthly insert disk) regarding sampling as opposed to working from Factory >Default Settings. I'll have to find this, because, from what I >understood, >FZ didn't really begin experimenting with sampling until after "Jazz From >Hell" had already been recorded, and the sounds in "Jazz" were for the >most >part programmed. > >There were certainly some interesting bits that he shared with us in the >treatment given on A&E's Biography show, where he manipulates a lot of >specifically rude body sounds with the keyboard, giving them names like >"Gastric Surprise"; just another one of the things I wish he had been around >long enough to truly utilize. > >Stephen Goodman - It's... The Loop Of The Week (E.G. Marshall)! >EarthLight Studios - http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > >PS - from the Leno show this week, an ad that proclaimed, "So beautiful >you >might mistake it for Art!"... thought it a bit apropo, eh? Though one might >pronounce it "Beaut-ee-ful" at the time... > >