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I forgot to say, I'm going to try one of these Zooms next monday. so I'll give you a short review if you like. Scanning through some of the past year's digests I was particularly intrigued by some mention of loopisms in unusual venues. There's a cave complex quite near where I live and I've always wanted to do a really atmospheric gig there. I might look into it, (the idea, not the cave). Anyone else got ideas of unusual places to do it?