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well mark - here's what i've been listening to; some loopy, some not: i've been spending time with Seven Veils by robert rich (d. torn on 2 tracks). very dreamy, very dark. the latest madeski-martin-wood, Combustication, is nice. i don't know if i like the turntable stuff, though; hiphop music culture isn't my bag, i think it's a little too trendy. (i guess i'll get a bunch of mail about that comment being close-minded or whatever. sorry. not saying it's bad, just saying it's not for me.) i've been listening to some older stuff too: Dream by u. srinivas, michael brook, et al, almost never leaves my cd tray. golly. the 1st steve tibbets on cuneiform is fun. i just got it & never knew that he was such a rock-god style player. hendrix, mclaughlin, & page influences all over his sleeve. Homage To Our Guru by aashish khan & indranil bhattacharya is some amazing raga duet. sarod vs. sitar reminiscent of ravi & ali akbar in the 50's & 60's. that's my 2 cents! bobdog