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93 ---Mike Biffle <Mike.Biffle@wj.com> wrote: > In ensembles it becomes quite a bit harder to slip in loops... It's mostly > chemistry... are the jam mates really listeners, or do they really need to get > their own ideas out? Often the first person to loop defines that portion of the > improv. Then it's up to others to support / subvert the given musical content. A lot of the time, I'll simply begin ambient loops, which the drums and stick can easily ignore, or react to. If I'm feeling particularly aggressive, I'll build the loop into a huge monsterousity that'll simply take over the sonic space. When improving with non-loopers, the loop tends to define content for everyone. I've always been fond of Fripp's description of long loops as trying to steer an ocean liner, as opposed to a speed boat. 93 Rev. Doubt-Goat (posting frenzy!) === The Homepages of the Doubt-Goat The Darsan Trio Sekhet Maat Oasis, O.T.O. Lion & Serpent http://www.easystreet.com/~twilliam _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com