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I have seen this unit mentioned here a few times ... now, I don't know what the formula is, but I just strolled into a Guitar Center (Which, by the way, sucks... *note 1) yesterday, walked out with one for $150. A couple weeks back, did the same at a small guitar shop, for about twenty bucks LESS. I've seen them going on Ebay and such for a bit more, maybe that's just market forces at work. All I'm getting at, is they seem to be out there; as Jerry would remind us, "You just gotta poke around...." Thanks to folks "here" (L.D.) who posted the Docs for Vortex. (*Note 1 - in an article about a year ago, Corey Greenberg wrote about his acquisition of a neat compressor at Guitar Center (which, by the way, sucks) and made a point of following every mention with his little "sucks" disclaimer. Yeah, it's a pain to price shop there, but if you get a good relationship with your sales rep, they do appreciate return business and are empowered to negotiate to that end. At any rate, many people in the sound sales business have heard the little "sucks" disclaimer will get a good belly laugh, and often extend you an extra walk-in discount, if you remember to repeat the "which, by the way..." comment.) <grin - this is strange, but true humour> Peace ... Jeff