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In a message dated 7/3/99 5:34:08 AM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, smaug@servidor.unam.mx writes: << sometimes the loops I make with the īrang seem to lose gain or to kind of dissappear if I play over them,I use a guitar to loop,is this normal? smaug. >> if you think of this attenuation as a tool rather than a shortcoming it then becomes a valuable asset......2 ideas: make the first loop a bit "hotter" ie louder, it seems to last longer and secondly, use the stack button selectively, dont keep it depressed all the time.............for shorter loops this attenuation can create a very evolving type sound, the more you add the more the loop changes and if something "goes away" just punch it in again.......hope this helps........michael