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Speaking for myself-ive phased out prerecorded backing tracks while using a sequencer/sampler instead ive used the processes of each modifier(effect-sampler) on a set of already"predetermined " sounds as a backing or the irregularities of my instrument becoming the actual macro sound picture -- this has far more elements of surprise/interaction than queing up a sequence and hitting play -or simply hooking a dat or cd into a mixer & pushing play I gravitate towards those people who use sampling -looping as a extension of a physical gesture ----a vital piece of the live experience puzzle it becomes the process whereby sound or music is made in realtime this just feels honest---but everything is valid -like it or not Karaoke is an authentic performing art -im sure some wannabe singers use this as a means of really expressing themselves -to push their own set of self imposed boundaries -the same way a guitarist solos against a complex midi sequence in a cofee shop somewhere in yr town if its all predetermined then there really is no difference to me. I need to be challenged & surprised when seeing a performance - the shows i did recently with David First are a perfect example -he used a cd player as a way of presenting a complex series of drones -pitch relationships along with a midi guitar controller& kurzweill in his piece -yet it was impossible to tell what was going on behind the scene s without having some prior knowledge the result was astonishing a balance between improvisation/process -the space was undulating & spiralling time was frozen or became meaningless -yet several people felt letdown after hearing of his use of the sounds on the disc--- would it have seemed more authentic if he had a mac right there running csound /max ? absurd Im particulary fond of artists who make use of the room or enviroment as an improvisational element in their performance i would much rather prefer seeing this sort of risk taking which in my mind is at the core of improvisation & live peformance its an interesting grey area weve entered in the last few years -the boundaries between live& recorded music are so blurred there are no rules -there have never been rules --only mind sets we choose to belong to.. K >Once I used a small looping/soundmaking device I called "the shoebox" due >to its size and shape. I was accustomed to working with my more eleborate >machines and maybe was nervous that what was a pretty big gig for me (the >Kitchen here in NYC) might come off as too sonically limited, so I fed a >tape of prepared sounds into the box for "transformations" along with the >realtime stuff. Now this was very experimental/noise/soundscape >material--not the obvious instrumentalist with invisible band thing--and >the audience didn't really have a clue. People raved about the >performance, and I even got asked for my autograph (unheard of in this >sort >of music!), but I felt crummy about it. I did this twice but would not do >it again. > >I think that in purely electronic music, it is enough to ask that an >audience find enjoyment in watching someone produce sounds largely >disconnected from physical gestures; for pre-existing sounds to play a >large part in the performance seems like cheating. Oddly perhaps, my >audience did not feel that way--but I did feel as though I cheated; >something was spoiled for me. In this situation, the audience should get >something special; I feel I should be able to say "no one will hear these >sounds in this shape ever again". But I suppose that applies only to my >sort of "abstract electronics"? > >David Myers >