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hey - thanks to everyone for the input so far. I've heard good things about the Ernie Ball pedals, but they are relatively huge, and the same goes for the Morleys, which makes me reluctant to use them. With a Wah and a huge volume, I don't have a hell of a lot of room left on my pedalboard (not that I need much, but one never knows...). I've thought about getting a wah/volume combo, which would solve the size/weight issue, but that seems like it might be a drag somehow - if anyone has used these, I would love to hear what they think of them. It sounds like I want a passive pedal, although one person has weighed in heavily against them. The reason I say that is because a) I'm not sure I really want to deal with the power issue, and b) it seems to me that an active pedal will add some noise to the whole signal path, which I could do without (the downside of using a used effect rack from the 80's). I was thinking of the boss pedal, which is nice and skinny (and looks cool), but someone bagged them, so I'll look around. I'd be curious to see what people think of the following : http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Articles/Avoiding_GAS/Part-6.html It's an article about "Assembling a Professional Pedalboard". It has become my default reference since it is very difficult to find books and info on this stuff. My setup is different in that a QV GT is handling most of the effects at this point, but the multiple signal paths - one with tuner - seems like a very sensible setup to me... Any books or other additional references would be appreciated. It doesn't help with the controller issue though. The delay trick someone described is just the type of thing I'm looking to play with. As a last point of my very long message here, I'd like to cast my vote for the QV GT or similar rack effects unit as a very viable option to get "unusual" guitar tones, and at a great cost. I picked this unit up used for $225, and, although I'm beginning to suspect the meter lights don't work reliably, I've been able to get some very odd sounds indeed with various combos of ring mod, distortion, delay, pitch detuning, etc. My feeling is that a lot of people are probably not really motivated to delve into messing with the settings on these units, but I know it will be a while (and an education) before I feel like I've hit the ceiling on the range of possible sounds. MT === ************************************************************* This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. ************************************************************* _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com