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If U don't have a Lexicon PCM42 w/ expanded memory or a PDS 8000 or an 'original'electro harmonix 16 sec. delay you will never be able to record @ 1 speed and then playback @ different speed (like I do) then you are basically f- ouled up as to applying this type of program to your LOOPS- sez me-...stanner... ---------- >From: "Brian Thomson, London UK" <bnt@email.com> >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Korg DL8000R Delay >Date: Sun, Oct 3, 1999, 8:26 PM > > Hi there - I'm the guy who originally promised to post something about >the > DL8000R, but never got around to it. (Actually, I did write a huge >detailed > document on it, but thought it would be too much for the list.) > > It's basically a 2-in, 2-out delay, with hi/lo eq and two delay sections > per channel (400ms pre-delay and 4800ms main delay). > > Each main delay section has four taps, tap four being the "feedback tap". > Each tap on each channel (plus direct signals) outputs to a mixer >section, > with pan and level control for each, then out in stereo. In addition, the > feedback taps have feedback level (in dB) and hi/lo damping eq, and can >be > directed back to their own channel (normal) or the other channel (cross-delay). > > For setting delay times, it operates in either a MS (millisecond) mode >or a > Tempo mode (bpm). In Tempo mode, the rhythmic facilities are very strong > indeed, with the ability to sync to MIDI sync, or generate it according >the > delay tempo of the program. The tempo can also be picked up from input > signal peaks (if you set the level threshold correctly). The times of all > four taps per channel can be set using a "beat pattern" facility, and a > multiplier/divider ratio applied to the tempo. Tempo is in quarter-notes, > as you would expect, so with Tempo set to 120, a ratio of 1/4 gives you > 1/16 notes at 120 = 125ms, while a ratio of 4 gives you a whole note >(4/4) > = 2000ms. The slowest tempo selectable from the panel is 50, and the > longest ratio = 4, which works out to 4800ms per channel. > > For example, the "ten second delay" is derived from left input -> left > 400ms delay -> left 4800ms delay -> right 4800ms delay -> both outputs. > Most other combinations are possible too. I enjoy playing with a 9600ms > cross delay, with a very light decay and damping eq. > > What confused me a little at first is the way varying delay times are > handled. Unlike other loopers I've heard and read about, the internal > operating speed is fixed at 48kHz, from inputs to outputs. This has its > advantages, such as zero internal noise from conversions, but it means >some > "standard" looping effects are impossible. As an analogy, think of the > DL8000R as two tape loops that run at a permanently fixed speed, each >with > a write head and four read heads. Each read head can be moved >individually, > but the loop speed never changes. When you change the delay time > (statically or dynamically), you're moving the head(s) only. Whilst doing > so, the frequency/speed of the output changes, but once you stop moving, > the speed is back to normal again. You can't record at one speed and play > back at another continously, as I've heard e.g. DTorn doing with his >Lexicons. > > Each head's delay time can be controlled dynamically, as can numerous >other > parameters such as levels and LFO, by LFO, MIDI or 1 foot-controller. >With > LFO controlling a simple short delay time, the result is a "warped >record" > effect that makes me seasick. The presets include various chorus and >flange > effects too. The foot controller I have (Bespeco) has quite short travel > and makes it sensitive - a slight slip can send all 8 taps reeling and > leave warped blips in the delay lines if you aren't careful. > > Unlike DavidK, I don't find it noisy at all, but maybe I got lucky. It >has > 48kHz convertors, with unbalanced connectors, and the eqs work well. A > setting of 0dB feedback level results in genuine infinite delay with no > loss at all - I've left it looping for hours this way. I don't think many > were built, or maybe the serial no. on mine (0000240) is just a fluke. I > haven't used it in earnest, but I would be happy to do so now I know its > limitations. > > Likes: > - good sync capabilities - great fun with sequencer / drum machine for >dub effects > - sound quality good IMHO > - inexpensive compared to, well everything else > - huge display - very visible, brightness controllable > - "purist" delay - nearly everything is controllable > > Dislikes: > - time / tempo display doesn't reflect changes resulting from real-time control. > - fixed speed loop (as above) > - delay time only 9600ms, not upgradeable > - "line lump" PSU > > Cheers, > > Brian Thomson, London UK > bnt@email.com > ----------------------------------------------- > FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com > Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > >