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I agree with the list-members who suggest that whether you loop or not is more a matter of availability than desirability. How many times has a "predictable" musical situation suddenly changed direction and left itself wide open for a loop (or two)? Wouldn't it be great to have every bit of kit available at every event from a bedroom jam to a big gig? Equally wouldn't it be great if every bit of kit could be patched together in any order whenever needed? So for any jam or gig I have to decide what to take by way of instruments, amps and effects. I guess this is a bit like loading the pod on Thunderbird 2. Inspiration might be a bit like lightning striking (according to Robert Fripp anyway) but if you ain't wired for it it won't do you any good. So, isn't music/looping like every other form of employment - "you do the best job you can with what's available in the time available"? or is this too "workmanlike" in approach? Jim Carter University of Bristol Cantock's Close Bristol UK Tel. (44) 117 9289934 FAX (44) 117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk