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Great question. I've found that it's extremely hard to use any rhythmic loops in a setting where a drummer's who's not tuned in (or at least has a great monitoring system for the loop...) is involved. In many situations like this, I choose either to not loop at all--or to create loops that are more vague and on top of the music and beats. As I've seen in other posts, it's really, really a rare thing to have a drummer who can lock in with the loops--or even play creatively inside and outside of them. Luckily, I'm playing with one of those rare cases right now... Many of the pieces I'm working on and recording at the moment don't involve any looping. I generally just play it by ear as to whether or not to use loops in the music I'm creating. For just about every gig, I'll have my entire setup available. But, many times, I won't use any looping. At other times, I think I may have done nothing but loop and pile on loops. So, I'd say that I do not loop only when the mood hits me! Lately, it's been a 50/50 type of thing. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I make sure that the capability to loop is always there, however--and that's a nice thing to know in any performance situation for me. Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/