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I think that some distinction is to be made between the ACT of repetition(ie.chanting,drumming,mantra,funk bass playing;))and the trance induction caused by listening to non-manual repetition. When I'm continually aware of a loop I just played ,I re-create it in my awareness and it can lead to one of the "goals" of repetitive meditation;namely the insight that nothing can be repeated.The universe is in a constant state of creative flux.If on the other hand, I ignore the loop it can become a lifeless "thing" in my awareness without much unfoldment creatively or spiritually.I go into a healing trance(not a bad idea)But,don't nessessarily become more present or creative.This goes for Prayer Wheels and Echoplexes. The dance of creativity,contemplation and trance is what I love the most about looping... Scott Kungha Drengsen http://www.basscapes.com