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i've used a PDS 2700 double play pedal since 1993 or so. it is a 1 sec hold + chorus. hence the name double play! this little green stomp box has been wonderful. i use it in conjunction with my 2101 processor and it's various looping function with the boomerang and johnson M- 150 amp. manually twisting the delay time knob on the greeny makes for some wicked little sounds. to hit the hold button captures these weird little moments and can then be moved over to the rang. i am also excited to purchase the new DL4. i am currently looking for the 2 sec. model also by digitech. it is in a blue housing. there is something innately romantic in using these early pioneer loop / hold pedals. almost sold my greeny once but glad i kept it. peace jimmy george Tim Nelson wrote: > I find my Korg SDD-1000 (2048 ms max) quite useful for short loops in my > mixer's aux 2, with footswitches for hold and bypass. (Aux 1 is the >Headrush). > > One thing I like to do with the Korg when it's got a good loop going is >to > send it to the other looper to overdub onto a longer loop, freeing up the > SDD-1000 for a new short loop or for duty as a non-looping delay. This is > nothing new to EDP users with your Multiply function, and there's a lot > less control my way, but it does the trick. It generally works better >when > one of the loopers is handling a more rhythmic part and the other is a > texture-type thing, since they're non-synchronous. Using the two > independently is a little more forgiving in lieu of a genuine UNDO. (OK, > I'll admit it! I wish I had a maxed EDP!) > > I also have a DD-3 on the floor, but find it a lot more appropriate to >use > it as a regular delay than trying to do the one-footed tap dance to hold. > What I used to do with the DD-3 involved an L-screw (I'm not sure what >it's > really called; it looks like an allen wrench with a threaded > point...)screwed down into my pedalboard next to the DD-3. While holding > the pedal down, a quarter turn of the L-screw latches the DD-3 into hold > mode so you don't have to keep your foot on it. The downside is you've >got > to unlatch it to make it stop. The Korg's a lot easier. > > Anyone else using short loopers either by themselves or in conjunction >with > longer ones? > > Tim (not that one...) > > At 05:34 PM 12/7/99 -0700, you wrote: > >At 05:59 PM 12/7/99 -0600, X-ray wrote: > >>>>I'm having trouble grasping that Tim does all his looping with a > >>2->>second hold. Is that all he uses? > >> > >>I'm as amazed as you, but yeah that's it. > > > >All I use is a Digitech 3.6 and a Boss DE-200 (1200 ms hold max), hooked > >generally in serial.