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Tim Nelson wrote: > Anyone else using short loopers either by themselves or in conjunction >with > longer ones? well, i use both a dd3 and dd5 (among other things) into an edp; what i typically use the boss units for is delay rather than looping (although i used them extensively for looping before i got the edp); but this thread brings to mind an interesting quality with these more *primitive* devices. namely, the ability to self-oscillate at certain feedback settings. i recently had the dd3 (which is stupidly easy to make oscillate) running into the dd5; settings thus: dd3 level: max f.back: 1 o'clock or? (just into self-oscillation but held back so as to remain controlled) d.time: variable mode: variable dd5 level: max f.back: max d.time: variable (this is the basic controlling variable; if feedback gets too intense, shift the frequencies elsewhere) mode: 1 this was actually the first time i've gotten the dd5 to self-oscillate (it's always seemed a more tailored box in my experience); i merely plucked a string on my guitar to get a signal into the dd3, then put the guitar down and basically fiddled with the delay times for 2 hours (all the while layering on the edp). scared myself silly! lance g. minor caveat: be cautious at first, as extreme feedback frequencies are speaker-melting at volume (and volume can jump quite dramatically!)