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<< Personally though, I think I'm actually happier with a Headrush and a couple of Zoom 2100's getting weird against each other than I was with the elaborate EDP. But maybe that's just my problem.... David Myers >> Well, there are at least two of us with the same problem, David. ;-) And guess what is even worse about our being so enamored of these little Akai units... if I wanted to add a third looper to my 2-Headrush setup, I would have to go through the agony of walking down to my local, neighborhood music store and picking one up for $160-$170. Not wait indefinitely for one to come down the pipe again. (Is the term 'Vaporware' familiar to anyone?) Which I probably won't need to do, since all the possibilities I could ever want to try with looping on the gear I now have will take me a thousand years or so to realize. Or perhaps I'm just unimaginative. Like you, I setup (or allow) my loops to work away from each other on the two units. Gives an interesting, life-like growth > decay into chaos > new growth morphing into some new undulating wave of sound again, ad infinitum. Great for background textures & 'soundscapes'. I've got a lot of midi gear, if I want things in perfect sync. It's the more organic feeling, imperfectly synced loops that interest me. Just finished a CD, with looping on two of the cuts, btw. When I get time, the orders for more or rollng in everyday, I'll throw some mp3's up on the web. hawkeye