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while the Nord doesn't have much in the way of internal analog delay time, it is great as a companion to another looping device. i have a micro more or less hardwired into a feedback loop with an EDP. with a little attention to levels, it can do some quite nice (or nasty) syncronized munging of the loop. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF