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I'm curious to see whether anyone on the list is using the Nord Modular or Nord Micromodular synths (http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm) in their looping setups.... apart from being very cool 'virtual modular synths', they have analog ins and an "audio mod" group of modifiers : AUDIO MOD GROUP Clip Overdrive Wavewrapper Quantizer Delay line Sample and hold Diode processing Stereo chorus Shaper Phaser Expander Compressor Inverter and level shifter Ring and AM modulator Digitizer The complete list of other synthesis modules is at http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/modules.htm I wonder what the max time on the delay line is ? Having a dedicated hardware box for processing is sweet to me - you do the editing of patches on your PC, then unplug the box and take it to the gig.... Darcy