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Robert, Totally matters upon what you are trying to do with the Loopers in question... Really liked what Gary Lucas (of Capt. Beefheart) did with several tape echoplexi, wherein he would create a drone or three on one, some form of rhythmic effect on the second and then a chord progression on the third, or would give a second rhythm or drone. Then again, he was typically doing this as a one man band, and he was using a rather extensive set of switch boxes, roughly 5 if my memory serves, along with a pair of volume pedals, a distortion pedal, and then there was a small rack which he would fiddle with from time to time... This is what really got me hooked on Looping devices, along with seeing Andy Summers playing a Roland GR-707 and ridiculous effects by himself on stage... Been using a Boomerang and a Zoom 2100 with Expression pedal and been really happy thus far, though I'd honestly like to give a DL-4 and/or the Echoplex a shot with my current setup. Tchus, Lee-ohki. PS. On a different note, you may want to check out the sound track for "Serial Experiments Lain (Cyberia Mix)" Released by Pioneer Stereo PICA 1179 (ISBN: 4-988102170127) Really good music (mostly techno, but all in all a great disc. L.