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Hello, Yes, but I love drum machines that sound "real", why would you want to make them sound "fake"? REal or fake compared to a drummer? Why compare the two. they are not the same?! I think people are too rigid on this subject, because that is the conventional thinking band must have real drummer.I don't know, I mean if it produces sound, it's good thing. wether a drummer, drum machine,a scratching noise, leaves ruffling. Before looping I thought the same way,band must have drummer...must have guitar...must have bass...must have long hair if they play metal....etc....that's just the norm,so what?!?!?! throw all that crap out the window and do what you want. I am anyway. ... and songs must be 2-3 minutes and have a verse and chorus, and must be radio friendly haha....etc..... But I'm not knocking live drummers either.I like both. anyway for my stuff, really the percussion (beat) is not what interests me most of the music. Thanks Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com I think I know what it is about the drums that I don't like. They sound like they're trying to be too real. I