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In a message dated 3/10/00 7:24:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes: << So, if you have a feeling that seems irrational, it's really your ideas that are irrational. I strongly suggest you look into Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand. >> I had plenty of psudeo-intellectual acquaintences in college, including a particularly irritating ex-girlfriend (so there's my subjective angle...), that constantly trumpeted the philosophy and "genius" of Ayn Rand. These people all confused their ego with "rationality" and delighted on sitting around and stroking it ad nauseum. I gave it a shot, but I thought then, and think now, that it's not only utter garbage but intellectually cowardly. I'm not going to claim to have read everything by Ayn Rand, but I feel about it like I feel about eating fried pork chops: if you like it and have no trouble digesting it, good for you, but I didn't see the point in going any further than one or two once my stomach was aching. If you get something meaningful from it, and I mean this sincerely, more power to you. But like the more over-zealous followers of any of these religions you find so offensive, you're making a mistake if you think it applies to anyone's reality but your own. IMHO, of course, and as off-topic as ever, Ken R