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sorry people, i don't dig all this musicology nonsense. imo, this is all very old-fashioned. :-) is there really anything to gain by trying to draw straight lines through history? connect the dots from sidney bechet to kid creole to louis armstrong to larry tremblay ;-) mr. tremblay bla-blas about choas theory books in one post while in the next he's trying to tell us about how various white males have single-handedly determined the course of music "HIS-STORY" (flavor flav). huh? malcolm mclaren as the GREAT WHITE discoverer of hip-hop? talk about bollocks ... i would suggest thomas pynchon (another white male) as a describer of LIVING history. ain't no straight lines for ya there baby. history is relative, it depends on where you are and the state of awareness. sorry for antagonistic tone, rob