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At 03:00 PM 4/21/00 +0200, you wrote: >is there really anything to gain by trying to draw straight lines >through history? connect the dots from sidney bechet to kid creole to >louis armstrong to larry tremblay ;-) I agree that when trying to chart a linear progression in the development of a musical style or genre, it tends to oversimplify the matter due to the difficulty (or impossibility) of accounting for all of the factors that influenced the musicians along the way, many of which weren't even conscious to them. To me "straight lines through history" don't work; a closer analogy would be the branches of a tree, but even with this more complex model there's the danger of seeing a style as being a composite of other known, visible influences. There are also other things to consider, like geography, socio-economic factors, fortuitous timing, and so forth, so musical evolution can be a very complex thing to try to trace, and it's not really an exact science. But on the other hand, this sort of analysis has often made it possible for me to hear some great music by little-known artists that I'd never have otherwise heard of. (Remember those "Family Tree of British Progressive Music" posters that charted the spin-offs and different lineups of various groups?) I've often found investigating the musicians that influenced some of the more well-known players, and in turn exploring THEIR influences to be a very fruitful source of enjoyable tunes. A good example of this would be Jimmy Page; I enjoy what he's done, particularly in the early days when he was experimenting with interesting recording techniques, but I wouldn't consider myself a big Led Zeppelin fan, and I don't listen to him/them very much these days. However, reading interviews with Page over the years in which he's talked about the musicians HE listens to has led me to appreciate stuff as diverse as Bert Jansch, TransGlobal Underground, Nigel Eaton, Scotty Moore, Link Wray, etc., and checking these players out has in turn led me to discover OTHER music I might otherwise never have known about. So, while the musicological approach to the appreciation of music may not be complete in and of itself, it can have its positive aspects as well. Without historians, we forget what's happened in the past. Tim