Re: Warez (was Sharks Lungs in Haggis)

["Peter Shindler" <shindler@mediaone.net>]

Whoa, wait a second...  some good music has been made with all of the stuff
that you just listed, as well as a lot of crap.  And I'm sure that some of
the people who are using a new Roland synth or one of the programs you
mentioned are "pushing them to their absolute limits and making them do
things outside their original specifications," as you say.  I'm sure most 
of
them are doing pretty cheezy stuff without much merit, but it seems like
you're needlessly slamming on a lot of people there.

Or try this, your second paragraph slightly rephrased:

I have a hard time respecting the "rock musicians" with their electric
guitars, distortion pedals with instant Jimi Hendrix settings built in,
spending a couple hundred bucks more so they can wow the crowds with the
newest amp that sounds like nothing else until everyone else can afford it.
Fuck That. Coming up with a I-IV-V chord progression, playing it as a bunch
of power chords, whipping up some distortion, and topping it off with a
blues-based solo is not good music.

Sound ok?  It's not what you got, it's what ya do with it.



Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "noah" <fishmong@braincramp.org>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Warez (was Sharks Lungs in Haggis)

> I make music with what I can obtain within my means. I would have a hard
> time respecting myself as a musician if I believed that I needed tons of
> expensive software to create art. When I was a kid, I made instruments 
>out
> of rubber bands and buckets and bits of electronic toys. I then got a 
>386,
> discovered the demo scene, and started tracking samples in Scream 
>Tracker,
> all of which I found on the 'net in the public domain or sampled through
> my horrid mono 8-bit original sound blaster. At least sixty percent of 
>all
> my musical effort, for as long as I can remember, has been doing my
> damnedest to push the equipment I have to the absolute limit and making 
>it
> do things outside the original specifications.
>
> I have a hard time respecting the "electronic musicians" of the Techno 
>Era
> with their phrase samplers, time-warping sequencers with instant aphex
> twin buttons built in, spending a couple hundred bucks more so they can
> wow the crowds with the newest roland beat-mangler that sounds like
> nothing else until everyone else can afford it. Fuck That. Ripping a
> drumloop off a sample CD, running it through ReCycle, whipping up a
> nonsensical 303 bassline in ReBirth and topping it off with VST or 
>Digital
> Performer sequence tricks is not good music.
>
> Wow, I'm bitter. Pardon me. I've just come back from a very bad rave, and
> I had one too many drinks. My point is, if you can't afford the software,
> innovate. Use Buzz, Csound, and Impulse Tracker. Go to paia.com and learn
> to solder. Be creative and work around your limitations instead of
> stealing software and hiking prices for the rest of us.
>
> </cynical snob>
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