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Kim Flint wrote: > we were looking at orville as a place to protoype new ideas. > but it became clear some of its limitations prevented us from doing many >of > our basic concepts that we implemented in the echoplex long ago. no hope > for the new ideas.... Kim, I can only assume you prefer working w/ hardware, but have you considered prototyping new loopers as VST or MAS plugins? C code is much faster to write than 56K Assembler -- and in many cases more direct than using a higher-level toolkit. Once you've settled on new features, you could re-write and optimise for an embedded chip, or perhaps someone will put out a stand-alone hardware box that runs VST plugins. ;) Jim