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i got the new sp-808 operating system and installed it a few months back. i just realised the sp-808 with the newest OS meets "true looper" criteria, in that you can add audio to a loop without stopping playback. (for anyone who owns one and cares, combine pad-to-track mode with the synth preset called "sound on sound". put fx patch in "send/return" mode.) it looks to have quite a few subtle intricacies to it, but i really haven't had a chance to plod through it all yet because of midterms and too many office hours. 8< r.s. (np: OST - Vanishing Point)