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This may be off topic a bit, but its very interesting: I am aware of our capacity to complete fundamentals. I just dont understand why bowls should not vibrate them? Too low? But how about a smaller bowl? What did the old cat hear? >So true, eventhough this low tone is not really produced, nevertheless >we can "hear" it. >The reason is simple. Our ears can also be tricked-or missinterpret- >an acoustic effect, like our visible recognition. >In this case,we hear from a bell all overtones/harmonics,but the >"Base Tone" is physical missing. Our brain now adds this missing >first harmonic to the reall appearing overtones and so we hear also >this low base-overtone of the harmonic spectrum of the bell. > >This effect is also used for such devices like Subharmonic Exciters and >Psychoacoustic-effects devices.Bring in the sound more bass,without >changing the volume of a signal. > >Allan Hoeltje schrieb: > > Second, someone here (don't remember who and it's been deleted) said >it >> is physically impossible for singing bowls to produce the low tone that >> you hear. Maybe what they really meant was "physically incredible" >> because, since you _do_ hear the tone, it is indeed possible. I >> remember some years ago reading about bells and the mathematical >formula >> for determining the "perceived" fundamental frequency. The word >> perceived is important here because bells are not like organ pipes or >> strings. Organ pipes and strings actually produce their fundamental >> tone. Bells do not. >> >> Bells produce overtones of what we perceive to be the fundamental tone. >> This is were my memory escapes me but I seem to remember that a bell >> produces a low frequency vibration which is below human hearing and >> overtones which we do hear. It is the sums and differences of this >> inaudible low tone and the interaction with the overtones which produce >> the perceived fundamental. This is also why the sound of a bell seems >> to come not from the bell but from the space around it. No mystical >> mystery, just nature being its wondrous self. :-) >> >> Third, I have not procured a real Tibetan singing bowl yet but last >> night I was feeding my two cats. One of their bowls is a 6" stainless >> steel bowl. It dawned on me that it came from a set of six bowls of >> increasing size up to 16" in diameter. Imagine my surprise when I took >> a wooden potato masher and rubbed the edge of the 16" bowl with just >the >> right circular motion. My 18 year old cat is stone deaf but he stared >> at me mesmerized by the intense low sound emanating from the bowl - it >> was probably the first thing he has "heard" in years! I am sure >> stainless steel is no substitute for high quality bronze alloy so I can >> only imagine what a real 16" singing bowl must be like. >> >> Anyway, once again the folks on Looper's Delight have directed my sonic >> fascination on to a new and exciting tangent. Singing bowls are now on >> my "must get" list of looper gear. Thanks to all who have contributed! >> >> -Allan -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org