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Andre wrote: >So, for instance, if someone doesn't understand North Indian Classical >music, they might think that the sitar player is running up and down a >bunch of scales while the tabla player does some random patterns. They >can certainly express these opinions if they like. But someone who >knows what ragas and teehai's (sp?) are will have a different take on >it. I'll accept that spelling, Andre :-) Another would be "tihai." For those unfamiliar with the term, it's Hindi for "thrice" and refers to a rhythmic cadential device in Indian music. A phrase and a small 'gap' of silence is repeated three times so that the final beat of the phrase coincides with the first beat (the "one") of the rhythmic cycle (or sometimes at other important points in the cycle). Tihais can become very mathematically complex, often starting a cycle or so ahead of their final endpoint. Tihais are sometimes precomposed, but should ideally be improvised. It takes quite a bit of concentration to execute them correctly. I just returned from a couple months of musical study with my teacher in North India. Unfortunately my "teehais" evoked more "tee-hees" than they did nods of deep appreciation ;-) On-topic content: I played some recordings for my teacher and his son and nephews (all musicians) of loops I'd done using traditional raga motives played on Indian instruments in conjunction with the EDP, e-bow, etc. My teacher found them a bit too repetitive, though he did like the "reverse" function. His son and nephews were more excited by the possibilities of looping, as well as the ability to overdub several instruments at once. But I don't think any of them are convinced enough to try to snare an EDP or Repeater. :-) My 2 paisa, James