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> > or... plug yer favorite old amp's speaker output into the Groove >Tubes SEII then to all yer favorite toys then to the console. I >don't know how well this baby works but I know you can get em. I use >and love an Allan Holdsworth Harness which is similar to the GT SEII >... These allows you to use vintage tube amps direct through signal >processors/ loopers to capture your favorite tube amps tone in the >beginning of your chain...... or.... anyone? cheers TS yes, thats the point, the amp sound needs to sit before the loop, so the loop mix does not get "amped" and you can switch the thing off to send different sounds to the loop. > >I personally use a GT-5 with speaker simulation, but when I WAS >using an amp, I found the HK Red Box to be a good sounding, cheap, >small and simple solution. You can either take the preamp out, or >put it between the power amp speaker output and the speaker. The new >ones don't use batteries either... Then there's the good old Sans >Amp Classic and GT2. > >-Miko hmm... if you imitate the nonlinearities of an amp between the power amp speaker output and the speaker instead of using the amp you still get the same problem... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org