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/delurk,on I think the best way to describe this is that the Vortex in of itself isn't necessarily very noisy (I've heard much noisier), but, if you feed it a stratocaster with vintage single coils and you're standing next to both a neon sign and a computer monitor at the same time, it will sound like hamburgers frying. But if you feed it a noise-gated or clean signal, it shouldn't be too bad. Some examples of multi-overdubbed vortexian silliness is online at www.mp3.com/aliensporebomb, specifically the track "aliensporebomb", but thems the breaks. /lurk,on --