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Dear L-D, "in response to this post: Another good thing to do is to learn how to play behind the beat or ahead of the beat with total impunity. This is a longer discussion and if you or anyone else wants to hear it, I'll be happy to post a very cool trick I invented for teaching a rank beginner how to do this against a metronomic track." I've had a few requests for this and I apologize for the delay. I've been in the middle of PC hell for two weeks and have ended up replacing my motherboard, processor,CD drive, floppy drive and hard drive (after a '@%&ing Maxtor 20 gig took a dump on me after less than a year) and am now ensconced in a very time consuming production gig. I made the fatal mistake of trusting the hard drive and didn't make a backup. I lost the last 6 months of work and I'm heartbroken. My computer guru, Si Moorehead (a saint, if ever there was one) says that it always happens only once to convince one to back up EVERYTHING!!!! Please let my newbie mistake be an inspiration to back your stuff up. I'll be back, I promise, but I've got to get some restful stress reduction first. To keep teasing you, Max, I've also stumbled on a very hip way to teach oneself how to play different 'moles' (mo-lay) or 'feels' that one encounters in different ethnic rhythmic culture. In essence, the 'mole', is the way 4 16th notes or 3 triplet eighth notes are stretched to produce, say, Rio style Brazilian Batucada music (street marching samba) or Bedouin triplet feels from the Maghreb. Hint: it involves using loops in a sound editor!!! See ya soon, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)